Wednesday, August 09, 2006

Phil the Groundhog? WSOP 2006 in Review, part 1

The final table for the 2006 World Series of Poker Main Event is set, and I think it's fair to say everyone in the free world is rooting for Allen Cunningham to win. I don't have anything against Jamie Gold, the chip leader, although I understand why some people do, and I'm sort of pulling for Doug Kim too, since he's from Yonkers. Paul Wasicka is supposed to be a very good player, who made a strong run at the 25K WPT championship at the Bellagio, so bully for him as well. I'm unfamiliar with the rest of the players.

Allen would make a great champion, and his understated, nearly shy presence would supply the perfect antidote for the presently overhyped poker mainstream. He's always pleasant to play with and has a slight, dry wit that usually goes unnoticed. For some reason, he's always reminded me of Peter Fonda, circa Easy Rider.












My own demise in the Main Event came at the hands (er, hand) of a player named Eric Molina, who embodies the exact opposite of everything that makes Allen enjoyable to play with. Based on the way he behaved at the table, it was clear that 21 year-old Molina came to the WSOP with the intention of making as much noise as he could and using an ultra-obnoxious table image to get under his opponents' skin. It was like he arrived fresh from Central Casting for "Super-bratty poker kid."

Problematically for me, this type of behavior actually succeeds in pissing me off and throwing me off my game. Most players don't find these tactics necessary (I have to, like, work with these people, so I try to be polite at a minimum), but Phil Hellmuth has turned this schtick into a science, and actually made himself likeable in spite of it. Hellmuth, too, managed to get in my head when I played with him for the first time, with three tables left in the $1,000 rebuy event, and his table presence definitely played a role in my busting out of that tournament in 17th place.

Molina's act was for less polished than Hellmuth's, and far more grating and ugly. It was sometime in the first half of day two, during the 300/600 level, when I got moved to my third table of the day, starring Eric Molina in the three seat. I was pretty short on chips, around 10,000 and didn't get involved in any significant hands at the outset, so I sat back and watched as Eric ran his chips and his mouth, He had a decent stack and was clearly playing a lot of hands, narrating each one with some kind of provocation, or saying things like "I'm just gonna limp this time, let's see what happens." At first, it just seemed minorly annoying, a variation on the type of player I commonly encounter, who has nothing to say but never shuts up.

Then, this hand comes up (action reproduced as accurately as I can remember it): The player in the one seat raises on the button and Eric re-raises out of the blind, super-confidently and talkatively. Before the action can even get back to the button (there was at least one limper), Eric starts talking shit: "Come on, you wanna push, I want you to push, you gotta push" or something. The button verifies with the dealer that there has been a re-raise and, without any hesitation, says "Ok, I am allin" and shoves in like 15-18K more chips. Oops. Eric gets a little quieter. He starts shifting around in his seat, and it becomes clear that he did not, in fact, want the button to push allin.

So it's on him to act, and he takes out the Commemorative (Beer Company I refuse to plug) Allin Button that were provided to players on day-one as both a) a souvenir and b) a way of ensuring confusion at one crucial point or another during the tournament. Eric says "I'm gonna take this coin and flip it and if it lands on the 'allin' side, I'm allin." Um, lol bro? Then, he takes out the button and tosses it up in the middle of the table, on the felt in front of him. LOL bro! Of course, this action is already a binding allin, and the dealer and others at the table inform him of this. The button asks if the floor should be consulted, but the dealer says it's not even close, the kid is allin. With A2, against QQ. Queens hold up, and the kid loses a significant amount of chips.

That debacle didn't slow him down though, and the kid kept talking. He boasted that he hadn't received the notorious penalty for saying "Fuck" (the term "F-bomb" makes me cringe, by the way) despite having dropped it numerous times, and a few hands later he recouped some of his stack when he flopped the nut flush against a jack-high flush. As he tabled his hand, he snottishly declared "I have the second nuts," because there was a potential 2-card straight-flush out there, and despite it being quite clear that his opponent--who labored over the decision to call allin--could not beat the "second nuts."










My 2006 WSOP ME nemesis, Eric Molina.
Isn't he adorable?


Then, this hand comes up: My stack had beefed up a little to 12 or 13K and I raise A6s in MP to 1700 and it gets to him in the BB. The dealer pulls in the 600, leaving the 1100 raise in front of me, for him to call. He asks what the raise is, the dealer says "1100" and then Eric says "I call your allin." Those exact words. Huh? What's the kid trying to do? I had a feeling he was trying to say "I put you allin" (which is also not a proper or binding bet as far as I know) but, in his efforts to be cute, had fucked himself over again. After establishing that his intention was to go allin, or to put me allin, I insisted on a floor ruling, quite sure that the floor would rule that his action was "a call" since the first two words out his mouth were "I call."

The floorman (the very gray-haired-one--the shortish one with a well-trimmed mustache) comes over, listens to whatever (increasingly irate) blather comes out my mouth, hears an account from the dealer that was accurate and to my satisfaction ("action gets to him, he says 'I call your allin.'" etc.), ponders the situation for three entire seconds and then declares the ruling: "I'm gonna have to say that's an allin."

I guess it's at that point I lost my shit, visibly and vocally. The ESPN cameras might have caught a piece of it, too. I mucked my hand, and, in my ire, I accidentally threw one of the pink-colored 500 chips off Molina's end of the table while tossing him my part of the pot.

I was furious, and I still think it's a terrible ruling. "That makes it like a string bet," I told the floorman. "No," was his reply, "a string bet has to involve chips." So, I suppose it is okay to say something like, "I call...and bet your Mercedes." Wild West, baby.

I get over it, and a few hands later stack some guy with AA vs KK which puts me up to 17K in chips or so. During that hand, when the action got to Molina, I say to him "'I call your allin....' That's what I'll be saying when u push allin right now." I say it in a clearly light manner, and most of the table laughs, but Molina insists on keeping the puerile tone: "You're still crying about that hand? You're just upset that you don't have as many chips as me. I can't wait to bust you..." etc., ad nauseam. I try to explain that I'm not upset, that I was just trying to make a joke, but he stuck to his guns.

And then he busts me. The blinds jump to 400/800 with 100 antes, and half the room goes on break while the rest of us start to stack up our green chips in preparation to "race." Molina, babbling something, makes it 4K to go, as he seemed likely to do with a lot of hands, and I push allin with A6o from the big blind.

I said to him "here's your chance to bust me" as I pushed the additional 13K that he was going to have to call. He said something to the effect of "I'd sure love to bust you" and didn't waste too much time calling me with a pair of sevens. I flopped an ace, he turned a flush and that was that.

Anyway, Molina rode his cocky attitude and loose swagger to an impressive 32nd place finish and $329K payday in what was apparently his first tournament. I assume he'll be around a bit (there was at least one other documented confrontation between Molina and Jamie Gold, in which Molina finally did receive an F-word penalty), and ultimately I hope he comes to realize that it's not absolutely necessary to be an asshole in order to do well in poker. But then again I guess it does help.

***

In part 2, everything that happened--or didn't happen--up to the main event, including commentary on Phil Hellmuth, Phil Gordon and accounts of menacing and inhospitable behavior from Harrah's employees.

26 Comments:

Blogger Matt said...

Why are you assuming that his assholeishness has anything to do with playing poker? Some people are just dicks. I'd bet he'd act the same way playing parchesi.

9:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is gamesmanship (mind games,etc..) and then there is trash talking. There is a model for this eg dont say anything that you wouldnt want repeated in front of the court, a cop, a priest, your boss, mom, whatever. And there is the unspoken code among men that keeps people from getting beat down in a parking lot. Obviously I am a neanderthal, but at least I'm no punk.

9:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Geez, just looked at his picture again, he will be paying for sex for.... His. Entire. Life.

9:50 PM  
Anonymous spal said...

Enjoyable commentary, sorry you busted out. As for your car being in the shop, maybe you could break out the old track bike for your ride back to Santa Monica? I agree with your observation of f-bomb cringing, throw in the use of 'frickin' too, for cringability. I'm moving to Austin next month, so maybe'll see you at SXSW next March- spalonius funkadelica, from the territory of new mexico

11:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And no mention of the recent 37k 100r Win and 8k 200r 4th Place (in one night) you are too modest!

6:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

reading that made me want to punch a hole through my screen. then i saw his picture and steam came out of my ears.

10:51 AM  
Blogger Matt Matros said...

"I call your all-in" = a raise? That's ridiculous. I would've asked for another floorman (although who knows if it would've helped). Sorry you had to deal with that nonsense. I was hoping for better things from my chips.

10:20 PM  
Blogger Shane Schleger said...

Matt Matros said:

"That's ridiculous. I would've asked for another floorman (although who knows if it would've helped)."

Is there an appeals-process in poker? I remember a time at the Playstation when I got an unsatisfactory floor-ruling from an inexperienced floorperson and asked for a second ruling. The club's manager was right there and refused to honor my request (making it seem absurd), saying "no, my floorperson has made his decision."

Since then, I've never asked for a second decision. And I'm not sure what's worse--a floor that makes routinely bad rulings, or a floor that is constantly overruling itself.

1:04 PM  
Blogger Kid Dynamite said...

that floor ruling is the worst thing i've ever heard. I had a problem at Foxwoods once where I had to go to three different floormen before I finally found one who knew the correct answer (regarding a string raise), but it wasn't to overrule a ruling that had been made...

10:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's next? I fold your allin?

3:47 PM  
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10:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shane -- The upshot of this entry that is he got you to push all-in on a hand where you were a big dog. In other words, he outplayed your ass from Vegas all the way back to Venice. Not an impressive story...

9:48 AM  
Blogger Shane Schleger said...

Anonymous said...

"Shane -- The upshot of this entry that is he got you to push all-in on a hand where you were a big dog. In other words, he outplayed your ass from Vegas all the way back to Venice. Not an impressive story... "

At what during the entry did I paint a picture other than that of him "outplay[ing] my ass..."? I made it clear that he got under my skin, into my head, and eventually got the better of me.

I don't mind you taking a shot at me, but after I've already laid my cards on the table, you're going to have to try a little harder than this.

2:07 PM  
Blogger amassei said...

you really shouldnt take this so personal. im sure you already know that he only did this to get under your skin, and he did,and even though this isnt the way you play poker, it is the way he does, and im pretty sure that being called an ass or stupid, and all the other names doesnt really matter when you are walking away with 330k (oh and he came in 31st not 32nd, just to let ya know)but he is not an ass hole, or a dick,he is a great guy! and the hole gold situation is sooo dumb... but for everyone who is bashing him for what he looks like and blah blah blah you all are retarded... but congrats on how far you got, its still a huge deal just to be playing!!

4:20 AM  
Blogger Disrespect said...

I know who you are from your online hype, but I really didnt expect such a mature, grounded and well written blog such as this I must say I truly enjoyed this post and really enjoy reading your writing, keep it up and all the best a tthe tables.

Disrespect.

7:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I almost went through my tv screen last night, what a fuckin dick, this is where poker has gone, friggin little punks coming into the game thinking there pros from the internet and there little home games. Why didn't someone take this little shit and beat the fuck out of him. I know the announcers wanted to. Eric Molina, you are a fuck stick piece of fuck, Thanks for making poker players look like shit, i would love to see you talk like that to the likes of doyle brunson or chan....

9:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

amassei, nice try but you/your friend Eric is a scumbag. Why don't you tell us why he continues to berate people after he is busted them, even while he's shaking their hand? WHat's the point of "getting under the skin" of someone who's no longer in the tournament? Just admit that Eric is a loser at life, was probably beat up every day in school, and as a result is angry at the world.

10:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That kid Eric Molina is such a retard. I would've waited for him outside and pounded him into October. What a douche bag. And the fact that his parents were there telling him,"you're just letting him get to you" is even worse than his bratty attitude. I would've stood up and pimp smacked all three of them in a row if I was with him at the same table.

5:29 PM  
Blogger amassei said...

um, no he is not a "loser at life" he is in school at a great college and im pretty sure he hasnt been beat up every day there, and when we were in high school together he didnt get beat up there either, so there go your theories. and he is not an ass hole either, the show definatly portrays him in that way, but think about it, the cameras were rolling all day every day and they edit it down into a couple hours, they can make you look and seem anyway they want. which is why he was hardly on the show. they only put on like 4 or 5 hands that he was in, and they picked the most entertaining, my friends and i were there the whole time along with his family, so we saw all the hands and they used nothing of him except for the ones that were interesting... and for the most part he was drunk which is why he kept running his mouth, he was nervouse just like almost everyone else there so he drank that away and he just kept his mouth running, but he didnt act that way with everyone. and if you watched him on the day he was eliminated he wasnt drinking which is why he was so quiet. plus its not like he was the only one there talking shhit, you think out of like 8000 people that he was the only one there that talked shit, i mean come on people, lets get real, everyone talks shit!....

oh and for the comment above me, he isnt an internet player, and i think its pretty damn impressive that a 21 year old stayed in for that long (out of like 8000 or something he came in 31st)which was a lot longer than most of the pros :-)

4:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

say whatever you want.. good or bad about this punk. I know that for sure I saw a window of what he is all about and that is a spoiled prick. He represents all that is bad about poker.. but as much as I dislike people like him I am glued to the TV to watch his fk'd up antics and wish someone there would take him outside and teach him a lesson.. if I see him .. and I just might then he'll get what he deserves.. ;) .. and I am not kidding. He is to me like all those AHoles in the online sitngo's and $ games that make the game no fun. Molina is the poster child for all those guy's who just won't shut UP

1:07 PM  
Anonymous stillbridge said...

Shane I agree that the floorman`s call was horrendous, and it seems like a matter of pure common sense. How can that be an all in raise, seems pretty stringy to me. Also how annoying is his boyfriend amASSei. I think some people think acting like an idiot at the table can earn them some tv time. I think when you win you should act like you have won b4. If you do want to berate someone don`t do it when you win. The most interesting thing I saw was the prahlad-lissandro riff. I also think prahlad played his 63 bluff beautifully, it was played pretty strategically I thought from the check call on the flop to checking the turn, and wasn`t just a randon bull in a china shop bluff. As annoying as Eric was to you, you have to admit he was no where near as annoying as Tony G, who is the most annoying player I have ever seen at a poker table. Has anyone ever kicked his ass for the way he acts I`d love to hear about it if so! Also after seeing everyone talk cash shit about Jamie Gold in the espn interviews I am glad he felted nearly all of them. Wassicka saying I`ll take him heads up with my 10% against his 90%........if it is me him and Allen we`ll pick him apart(is trying to place himself in a cunningham`s company.....ok)Good luck on the tourney trail.

7:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The biggest shame is that he finished with $330,000. It's rough that you got knocked out by him.

To Molina's friend.... yes, most of us only saw a few small glimpses of him on TV, but what we saw was incredibly obnoxious.

Drinking isn't an excuse, he was an asshole.

You can say that his finish was impressive, but in the few hands most of us saw of him on TV, he didn't make a single good play. At best he made bluffs that might've worked on a couple hands but probably wouldn't in the long run. At worst, he made incredibly bad plays like his all-in call. I don't have a good sample size to really judge his game, but if his game is anything like what I saw, he's not a good player.

You can say that his table behavior was an act, but your actions define you in the eyes of others. And all any of us saw was a skinny little prick running his mouth when he had no idea what he was talking about. Maybe he's not such a little bitch in real life, but that's all any of us saw.

11:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thoguht his shit talkin was funny.

Come on, nearly everyone who plays in that damn tournament is an asshole in one way or another. Jamie Gold is a fuckin dick.


Ahh you know what, im changing my opinion. I find it annoying as hell when people talk all that shit in the little chat screen online.

But hey, u have to admit he was pissing some people off pretty bad in that tournament and that is the bottom line. Pissing people off when $12 million was is on the line is hilarious, so props to that douchebag


-mink

12:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Molina's a fuckstick for sure, but just him being a fuckstick isn't the worst of it. The casino where I live just started letting in 18-20 year olds to play, so now the rest of us are going to have to put up with Eric Molina copycat fucksticks now.

11:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a former "pro poker player," albeit in a very small-time sense. A long time ago, I played Draw and Lowball for a meager living. I lived a bare-bones life, but poker paid for college and was thus indispensable to the career I have enjoyed in the decades since. And, like so many modern "young guns," I did it in my early-to-mid 20's.

Molina is making far more money than I did--because of inflation, because he's a better player than I was, and because the TV/poker craze means there are about 1,000 times more poker "idiots" now--but he reminds me a lot of me when I was his age. He's intentionally as offensive as possible, as well as unintentionally classless. The combination makes him so insufferable others can't wait to beat him.

In major events, most players can recognize this Mickey-Mouse behavior for what it is, and avoid throwing their chips to him. In smaller games and tourneys, however, I'm sure Molina's bluster and misanthropy serve him well... as mine once did me.

But I always shut my mouth after I had galled or conned someone into losing a big pot to me. THIS guy goes right on, insulting his victims' intelligence after they've lost their chips, but before they've left the table. I was very careful not to do that... for reasons which should be obvious.

One of these days, in an alley or parking lot, one or more "idiots" whom Molina's soundly beaten (in the poker sense) will return the favor (in a literal sense). It's likely to be about as severe a physical beating as was the financial one he administered to his assailant(s).

I'm guessing not many people will visit him while he recuperates from his wounds.

Fate's cruelest twist for Molina, however, will come a good many years down the road, when he (belatedly) matures and realizes what a puke he's been. And he'll cringe, as I do now, when he sees a reflection of his young self on TV.

Until then, Mr. Molina, may your winnings be as minimal as possible. And for your sake, may you realize what kind of world-class @ss-kicking you're likely to take, one of these days. I got one of my own 31 years ago, administered 3-on-1, and it was no fun at all. If you don't change your ways, you're liable to get a lot more than one such thrashing.

Older and Wiser

1:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

eric molina may your children die in front of you and may you brun alive in hot oil

12:56 PM  

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